I am so glad the writers didn’t feel the need to name Smokey or the Island. I know some people wanted that, but I couldn’t have wanted that less.
I am so glad the writers didn’t feel the need to name Smokey or the Island. I know some people wanted that, but I couldn’t have wanted that less.
After Daniel’s death I got the inkling of a theory: The Island appears to be killing the people who were born on it. We know that the Island stops letting women give birth on the Island after a certain point, but it now seems as though it’s doing some retroactive killing.
Think about it, we know of six people born on the Island; Ethan, Daniel, Charlotte, Miles, Alex, and Aaron. Out of those 6 only 2 are alive right now. And if you recall Claire made sure that Aaron wasn’t brought back to the Island. That leaves only Miles. So the big question is, when will Miles die? When I was writing my revlysis for The Variable I came to that same conclusion, that Miles was going to die, for different reasons.
This also calls into question what will happen to the Third Party if this theory is true, and the members of that group were born on the Island. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Bram and Ilana knew that they had signed up for a suicide mission, they’re the type of people who would happily die as martyrs. That kinda leads me to my another theory, I think that Ilana and Bram are trying to find Jughead to do what Daniel couldn’t, blow up the Island.
You might want to go back and read the Comic-Con Q & A that I posted earlier. I’ll be referring to it a lot. Here’s the link. I’ll also refer to the Dharma video that I posted here. I’ll try to go through the questions in the order they were asked.
Q: When the hatch imploded and the sky turned purple did the island move then? Like it did when Ben moved it (more recently)?
Damon Lindeloff: No. But something happened and that’s an excellent question.
I would have never thought of this question, but it really is clever. A pretty obvious answer though.
Q: Are Jin and Locke dead?
Carlton Cuse: Jin and Locke will still be on the show in some form. You’ve not seen the last of either of those characters. You know, dead is a relative term. In the timelines of those characters there’s still a lot of story to be told.
I can see how people might think this is proof that Jin and Locke are only going to show up only in flashbacks or something like this. I think that this was only cover for the actors to go back to work on the show. If they had said yes they are dead, and then we heard Daniel Day Kim was shooting a scene, we would have obviously made a big deal about it. Now it will seem normal. I’m still sticking with my theory that Daniel will rescue Jin.
Q: Are we going to get a (Danielle Rousseau) flashback? Will you definitively say in front of 6,500 of us that there will be one?
CC: We will say this: You will see Rousseau’s story. But to use the word flashback would be disingenuous. We’re going to do flashbacks and flash-forwards next season, but we’ll mostly be doing something different.
DL: Danielle Rousseau will be in Season Five.
This is some of the most exciting news ever. But seeing Rousseau’s story will be different from having a Rousseau story. It is possible that we might see the story from Ben’s perspective. It was said that he rescued Alex from an insane woman, It sounds as if he was pretty involved in the story. I also think this answer implies that there will be a change in the format of the show, but I’ll talk about that later.
Q: Now that the island has moved, what happened to the survivors and Daniel Faraday?
DL: You refer to the Zodiac boat and the non-line speakers, right? Sadly, there is a monsoon a comin’ for some…
I believe that this is an implication that the non-speaking red-shirts will die. I have no doubt that Daniel is still safe though.
Q: Flash-forwards, how are you going to limit yourselves?
DL: When Season Five starts, you won’t know where and when you are. The way we’re gonna tell stories is gonna be different too.
CC: We organized a bit differently; if we were constrained by FF and FB that that was not gonna be the best way to tell our stories.
Right after we all watched Jack’s first flashforward we all knew that they couldn’t do flashforwards forever. This is even more obvious now, at the end of season 4. It sounds to me as if each episode will be a different time period and they’ll do away with flashes. Maybe they’ll have an episode in 2007, then and episode in 2004, and then one in 1975. Who knows, that is a pretty epic change in the format.
Q: How old is Richard Alpert and how many toes does he have?
CC: That’s a really good question. He is quite old. We’ve hinted that people age differently on the island and people heal. That is hopefully an engaging mystery that will keep you tuning in. You will learn more about Richard Alpert.
DL: You’re gonna see his toes too.
They purposefully kept this question until the end, therefore I think it was more important than it appears. Now that Cane is cancelled Nestor Carbonell is completely free to join the cast of Lost, so that means we may actually get Richard flashbacks, which would be very interesting.
On to the Dharma video. I dug up a lot of it on Tuesday, but I mostly focussed on the Daniel part of it because Daniel is my favorite character and I really wanted to get the scoop on that before anyone else. But there’s more to say.
First of all I think that the baby crying is Miles, that seems extraordinarily obvious, some people seem to think that I believe it is Charlotte, I definitely don’t. Pierre refers to it as him, so, yeah.. I don’t think I need to explain that.
I tried to look up the Kerr metric solution and the Einstein field equation, but now my head hurts and I didn’t retain any information from the last hour of my life, so I don’t have anything to say about that jazz. (Some times I think the writers of Lost just want to make me learn stuff, tsk, so unthoughtful.)
Here’s an obvious question, what was the purpose of the video? I think that the answer is jsut as obvious, the video is meant to be a recruiting aid for the new Dharma iniative. I believe Pierre is asking Daniel to film it as a favor, unfortunetly not even Pierre fully knows what he is doing. He keeps on asking us to change hte past and save them. Daniel, being from the future and flashing back, knows that this is impossible so he keeps on saying that, “It’s useless”. I don’t understand what he was talking about when he mentioned the “pinhole”, I looked up pinhole and time travel and again, the same results, a headache and a mysterious hour missing from my life.
I especially like this theory because it explains Smokey so well. What it says is that The Island is the Garden of Eden. After Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Bad they were banished from the garden, then god placed a Cherub in front of the garden as a guard. It was his job to prevent sinful humans from entering the garden. After a short period of time The Garden of Eden was lost, possibly hidden by god.
These two theories say that the Island is the Garden of Eden and that Smokey is the Cherub, as the Cherub he is the guardian or security system of the island. This theory also explains why Richard can live forever on the island and why illnesses and disabilities are cured. There is lots more proof, take a look if you are interested.
Locke -centric episode. Some people say this episode was the one that hooked them to the show. Obviously the twist, that Locke was in a wheelchair, was very dramatic. But when I remember these first few episodes, this one didn’t really stand out.
I completely underestimated this episode. The fact that the general public thinks this episode is wonderful made me think that it therefore must be pretty average. But this is the kind of episode that I love. It is almost all mythology hidden under character development. On the outside everyone remembers Locke being able to walk again. What we forget is all the crazy stuff that happens in between. Things like: Locke seeing Smokey, Jack seeing Christian and Rose knowing that the Tailies are still alive. Since this was such a good episode I’ll give it the old 10/10
If you thought the Time-Loop Theory was crazy, wait until you see this doozy. (I don’t think I’ve every written such an outrageously cliched sentence that bad before.)
This theory is called: Lost on Earth’s Mirror Matter Moon, or in case that was too simple: Through the Looking Glass via Theoretical Physics. Yep, this ones gunna be rough.
Here’s the link. In this theory he explains how he believes The Island was formed, with the impact of a huge meteor. There is some stuff about dark and light matter and sort of bridging matter called mirror matter, but that’s all over my head. He also talks about Jacob. He has found a historical figure who could possible be the basis of the character.
Also the author recommends another Mirror Matter theory here. I completely agree with what this guy says at the end about Claire’s baby in the Pilot (part 2). While rewatching the episodes I came to the same conclusion. I’m posting the Revlysis tomorrow.
These guys are the heroes that are doing the real Lost theorizing. We are all amateurs compared to them. Oh to be an astrophysicist.
On to the where. Getting to and from the island is obviously hard work. The island could be anywhere or any..when(?) in the world. So first you have to locate it, which is notoriously hard, it took Charles who knows how long to find it. And the only reason Penny found it was because of the Swan implosion/explosion, and by tracking Desmond’s phone call.
There are some that we know did get on and off the island. We know Ben has been off the island, hence all the passports and the notoriety at the Tunisian hotel. We know Mr. Friendly (Tom) has been on and off the island. And Richard, Ethan went to pick up Juliet. Also Charlotte has apparently been looking for where she was born so she can be added to the list. Daniel too seems to have some insight as to whats happening with the island.
So here goes. I am having a very hard time coming up with a theory about this, and I’m sure I’ll have another go at this before season 5 starts. I propose that Ben needs the help of one of two other people to find the island. He might even need the help of both of them (and it just happens that these are two of my favorite characters).
He’ll need someone from the island, to invite him back. Since he turned the Frozen Donkey Wheel he won’t be able to find the island again, he’s essentially banished. I believe the person to invite him back is Richard. Richard, as you may recall, has been on and off the island in the past, he visited Locke as a child (I am assuming he lived on the island at that time). Richard also went to pick up Juliet. When he went to get Juliet, they said they went in the submarine, the same submarine that Locke supposedly blew-up (I don’t believe that he did, but I also don’t think that’s how they get on and off the island). We don’t know exactly how the trip went because Juliet was asleep during the journey, Ethan just said in a suspicious way that the last leg is always a little bumpy, maybe he’s talking about the fact that people usually go crazy when the come to the island, I’m supposing otherwise. The fact that we don’t know exactly how they get back leads me to believe something special happened. And I don’t think special things could happen on the submarine. So what I think is that they didn’t get to the island on the submarine, they only used that as a prop so as to not scare Juliet, and they used other, more exciting means to get there, why else would you sedate the person you were transferring. So let’s say there are paranormal means to get on and off the island, why not use such means with the man who has likely used them the most, Richard.
But what if the answer is more science than fiction. In that circumstance Jack and Ben will need someone smart. Someone who understands the phenomenon of the island. Maybe someone who seems to know a lot about Dharma and their experiments. A person who’s good at lateral thinking. Who could that be? You’re right! Good ol’ Daniel. I think that Daniel coming back in season 5 will be just what Jack and Co. needs to get back. If there is something that Ben can’t figure out, Daniel would be the ideal candidate to make sense of it. And if the island did move in both time and space it will be very hard to find, and likely it would take some serious calculations, calculations that someone like Daniel could do in a heartbeat. (Note: if Daniel did come back to find the island this would be a perfect chance for him and the writers to explain the Icosahedron Theory.)
The problem with these ideas is that the main characters in them are no where to be found. Richard was definitely on the island when it left, and I doubt he’s going to come running to Ben when he has Locke on the island. And poor Daniel is who knows where. Since it seems to me that the island has jumped in both time and space and Daniel was halfway out to sea when it happened, poor Daniel could be anywhere. I’ve talked about all of this in this post. It’ll be quite an undertaking to find the island but I’ll bet Daniel and/or Richard will be involved in the return.
Come back on Friday when I kick off my season 1 reviews. After that I’ll have three reviews a week on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.
This is the most puzzling part of the finale. What happened on the Island that prompted Locke to leave and come begging Jack to come back.
I figure there are three possible threats to the island and those on it.
I am constantly worried about Smokey wreaking havoc on the people on the island. He seems completely untamable. Me and my friend DT’s theory is that Smokey is a security system to protect and at the same time imprison Jacob. I think that Jacob is fighting against those bonds. Maybe my moving the island Jacob gains an advantage against Smokey. So by doing what Jacob wants Locke might have incurred the wrath of Smokey. Perhaps that picture that Locke drew as a child was foretelling what would happen in season 5. There is one time in the past that Smokey went around the island causing damage. That was when the plane first crashed on the island, I assume it didn’t like all of the pieces of plane hitting the island. Who knows what might happen to the island now that it is hurtling through space and possibly time.
The island could travel somewhere bad. Perhaps it travels to the Sahara Dessert or maybe back to the North Pole. Or maybe anywhere bad, it’s actually hard to imagine a nice place where the island could land. If the island did go to a very bad place it would be Locke’s responsibility to get them back to safety, that would mean turning the Frozen Donkey Wheel again. If he was to turn it again he too would probably be sent to the middle of the desert and eventually he would find civilization, find out that the Oceanic 6 survived and he would beg them to go back, hoping that with their help, and money, they could find his island again. I don’t understand this theory much and it seems pretty crazy. But it fits so you never know. Also from a budget point of view this is insane. Drastically changing the weather would be impossible, especially in Hawaii, where it’s filmed.
This theory makes the most sense to me. We all know that the Hawaiian islands are volcanic. The Island is not supposed to be Hawaii but it too is clearly a volcanic island. The volcano is only mentioned once in the show, when Ben is at the Dharma school. So perhaps as the island moves (in time or space, in this theory it hardly matters) something shifts deep within the island and the volcano becomes active. Filming an active volcano on Hawaii wouldn’t be that hard to do. And it would cause a lot of panic. This could definitely be the problems that Locke mentions to Jack in the finale. Why he would need Jack to come back is confusing, but perhaps he just misses their conversations.
That’s what I have so far about Locke and the people still on the island. On Monday I’ll have a new post about those people who got off, and who I think will come back and how. I’m sure this won’t be the last time I talk about this.
How about you. What do you think will happen? Which one of my three possibilities do you think it more likely? Or do you have an idea of your own?
Next week I’m going to talk about the Oceanic 6 and the others who got off the island.
I want to use this post to take the mood down a notch, I’m just about done (over)analyzing the season 4 finale, but the lat few posts are pretty intense (and extra long) so I’m going to talk about something significantly less important today.
Before I tell everyone my new Narnia Theory I want to tell you about my old one, because it was so much better. I still wish it was true, not just to be right (for once) but because it was such a great idea. I should also say that while my old theory was a full blown theory, this new one is more of a reference and it’s not likely to be proven correct.
Once Charlotte got to the island I immediately started thinking about Narnian theories and references. The Chronicles of Narnia is one of my favorite series of book, and although it gets dull near the end, I still love the stories. (I don’t spend too much time analyzing the Christian references because that bores me, and it definitely isn’t the reason why I like the series. The ‘His Dark Materials’ trilogy is also one of my favorites, so that says a lot about my taste in Christian fiction.)
The episode right after we are introduced to Charlotte Staples Lewis, we get to see some of the science that Daniel is working on. In that episode Daniel does his little rocket timer test. This test tells him that there is a time difference between the Island and the Freighter. This test told me what I wanted to hear: That time flows differently on the island than it does in the real world. This was similar to Narnia, where a year in our world could be thousands of years in theirs. I assumed that it was the opposite on the Island, with the islands time flowing slower than the real world.
There wasn’t a lot of proof but it was still pretty possible. As any of my friends know, I really got into this theory.
I took Richard as the ultimate proof, the fact that he doesn’t seem to age while Ben does made me think that since Ben spends so much time off the island it was possible for him to seem older, that may actually make him older.
And I have been waiting for a long time for Walt to come back, I thought this was a perfect way to bring him back. Since the actor had aged in real time, they could just bring him back this season or next and explain it with the time difference.
Also I figured out in season 3 finale that it occurred around 2007 because of the new Motorola Razr that Jack had. I assumed that the Oceanic 6 were saved sometime around then and people just assumed they were gone for years.
The only outright clue against my theory was in the episode 316 – “One of Us”. In that episode Ben shows Juliet her sister, completely cured of cancer and playing with her son in a playground. Ben even made Richard show the current newspaper. That threw a wrench in my theory, but I chose to ignore it.
So I was completely sure during the first few episodes. Buuut.. it quickly fell apart. As more was revealed about the Oceanic 6 it was clear that they were rescued quite a while before Jacks initial flashback. And after I saw a very old Aaron with Kate, the theory was pretty much shot. Then when Desmond phoned Penny on Christmas Eve the theory was completely out the window (I was of course overjoyed by that glorious episode, so that offset the sadness of losing my theory).
So that was then, but this is now. And now I have a new idea, completely unrelated to my former theory. But it really isn’t a theory it’s just a little bit of background and possible history or mythological reference to the island.
So I was reading Prince Caspian before the movie came out (that’s a habit of mine that I suggest you adopt, I always read books the week before they are adapted into movies, that way I can always appreciate the story for what it could be). In the book (not the movie) they tell the story of the Telmarines, they are the foreign people who have invaded and taken over Narnia. These Telmarines are from Earth, not Narnia, and they accidentally stumbled into Narnia. It’s how they stumbled into Narnia that is interesting. They were a group of pirates who landed on an island. On the island these pirate go exploring, inside the mountain they find a passage to another land, and they go through and come to the Narnia world.
I am submitting that this island is the same as our Lost island, and if not then at least it is a cultural reference that the writers may have been thinking of. It may be that the negatively charged exotic matter or maybe the electro-magnetic anomaly on the island may be this same thing in the island in Prince Caspian, hmm very interesing.