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08

season 4 finale: Jack and co. getting back to the island (part 1)

This is my last season 4 finale post that I plan to write.  It is focusing on season 5 a lot.  Again I used to have a huge long post but I’ve split it up for ease of reading.  I’ve tried to make these some of the most significant posts that I can, they almost touches every character on the show, the ones that I don’t talk about here I mention in my last few posts about Locke’s on-island problems.  After this I am going to get started on reviewing old Lost episodes.  So stay tuned.  I’ll also give you a few days to digest this post, so read on.

As far as setups go on Lost, that was a pretty satisfying one.  At the end of the finale the writers put in a scene in which Ben, the Mastermind, and Jack, the “Leader” (I still think he’s an awful leader, but that’s his favorite role), come together and join forces to accomplish one thing: Getting back to the island.  They have two obvious hurdles in doing this.  First they have to convince “all of them” to go back.  And then they have to find the island.  So we have to questions: Who? Where? & How?  (Where and How are very similar so I’m grouping them together)

Who?

I guess what they were doing here is leaving season 5 very open ended.  By saying all of you have to go back, Ben left the possibility that he was only talking about the Oceanic 6 (and Locke) or maybe everyone who left in the finale (The Oceanic 6 + Desmond, Lapidus, maybe even Jin, Daniel, & Walt).

I think having it open ended allows the show-runners to have more freedom with the casting.  For example Jeff Fahey the actor who played Frank Lapidus was a guest star all season (this actually led many people to believe that he would die).  But since he doesn’t actually have any serious commitments to the show it is unlikely that he’ll come back full time, there are a lot of actors like that.  I mentioned in an earlier post that Henry Ian Cusick might not want to come back full time either (Updated, see comments below, I was way wrong on this, luckily).  So who really knows what’s going to happen.  But who cares about the Hollywood side of Lost let’s get back into the mythology.

Why does everyone need to go back to the island?  does the island not accept single people back onto the island?  Do they really need to go back as a group?  And who are those that have to go back?  I tend to believe that when Ben says you all need to go back, he means only the Oceanic survivors.  That means Jack, Kate, Sun, Hurley, Sayid, Locke.  There are three other people who are in a sort of gray area for me: Ji Yeon, Walt and Aaron.  I’ll go through all of the characters separately (and backwards!).

Aaron

The stuff about Aaron is terribly confusing.  All paranormal signs advise guardians of that child to keep him in LA, and away from his blood relatives, I really don’t know what to make of this.  I think we should obey them simply beaus whenever signs appear it usually means that death is around the corner.  So I doubt he’ll be going back to the island, probably he’ll stay with Kate’s mom.

Walt

As for Walt, I believe it’s his destiny to live on the island.  And I bet Jacob really wants him to come back too, or else he really doesn’t want him to come back, in which case I think he definitely will go back (I like the way I think).  I’m not entirely sure what was happening with Walt in season 1 & 2.  I know there was some kind of brainwashing, that was shown in the Missing Pieces, but I don’t know if The Others kidnapped Walt because they just liked having slightly psychic children around or if it was because Jacob asked for The Others to take Walt, (maybe he was on Jacob’s List).  Who knows, I just want Walt to come back, as I mentioned in my earlier post.

Ji Yeon

I don’t think Ji Yeon will be coming back.  I think since she wasn’t conceived until they got onto the island and she wasn’t born until they left, she isn’t terribly important.  If you noticed, in the scene with Sun and Mr. Whidmore, Ji Yeon was said to be with Sun’s mother.  I think that was a setup to imply that Sun could easily spend time away from Ji Yeon.  Not that I think that’s a good thing, but it’s an important story element.

Tomorrow I’ll talk about more important people (namely adults), stay tuned.

– Izi

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8 Responses to “season 4 finale: Jack and co. getting back to the island (part 1)”


  1. 1 Kathy
    June 30, 2008 at 8:04 am

    “I mentioned in an earlier post that Henry Ian Cusick might not want to come back full time either.”

    From everything I’ve heard and read about Ian, he’d be most happy to stay in Hawaii (he lives there fulltime) with LOST and with his character of Desmond for as long as they will let him.
    Let’s hope that’s till the end of the show! 🙂

  2. 2 missscarlett
    June 30, 2008 at 10:46 am

    Now that all the children are out of the picture…well if you’re right they’re handling that better than most soap operas. Sometimes those kids just leave the room to get something and are never mentioned again.

    Ok – I think he means the 815 Survivors – which is why Locke is included. But…what do I know?

    It’s likely Ben wants to find Desmond because that will equal finding Penny but we don’t want that to happen!
    Ben has for the most part totally ignored Desmond’s prescence — what is that about??
    I am really curious about that.

    Great pics – love that you found one of Aaron not looking like a monster. 😉

    I think the Others (Alpert at least) have always been attune to children with ‘talents’ — look at his visits to Locke from his delivery on. I mean – that is pretty darn young to have someone recognize some potential in you – so I wonder if there will be another connection between Locke and the Island yet to be revealed.

    Tonight or tomorrow I’m starting Lost Revisted posts on my blog. Finally right? I know.

  3. June 30, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    izikavazo: “I mentioned in an earlier post that Henry Ian Cusick might not want to come back full time either.”

    I’m with Kathy. I’m not sure why you’d think that. Ian has said, countless times in interviews, that he and his family LOVE Hawaii and would love to stay for as long as they can. And as for Desmond, Ian loves him too. 🙂 If TPTB do downsize the role (which I think will eventually affect even the original cast at least during S05 as we dart back and forth from Island to Mianland and back), there is always work outside of the show. He’s already shown that he works when the show is on hiatus (he did Dead Like Me [the movie], replacing the Pitankin role) so there’s no reason why he’d not want to come back.

  4. June 30, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Sorry I guess I read that a long time ago. This is a situation where I’m glad to be wrong though. Desmond is my favorite character.

  5. 5 Rosie
    December 5, 2008 at 10:27 am

    The stuff about Aaron is terribly confusing. All paranormal signs advise guardians of that child to keep him in LA, and away from his blood relatives, I really don’t know what to make of this. I think we should obey them simply beaus whenever signs appear it usually means that death is around the corner. So I doubt he’ll be going back to the island, probably he’ll stay with Kate’s mom.

    What makes you think that the island doesn’t want Aaron back? Because Kate’s dream said so? A dream that featured Claire speaking with an American accent?

    Who said that Aaron should stay away from his blood relatives? I don’t recall any such thing in the transcript. Where did you get this idea? What is this? An excuse for the deception surrounding Aaron? Are you trying to excuse Jack, Kate and the other O6 for keeping Aaron away from his grandmother, let alone his mother back on the island? Are you kidding me?

  6. 6 Rosie
    December 5, 2008 at 10:29 am

    And why on earth should Aaron stay with Kate’s mom? What the hell is that?

  7. December 5, 2008 at 11:14 am

    Whoa, whoa, slow down. I always thought that Richard, the psychic guy from Australia told Claire that it’s important that someone else should raise the baby. I dunno. I really do find it confusing. I don’t really know why it’s a big deal. I said that Diane should keep Aaron because I can’t think of anyone else that Kate would could give Aaron to if she did go back to the island without him. But these days it seems obvious that Aaron will go back to the island.
    But seriously, I don’t really care either way. This post has some very old, out of date guessing on my part (from June 30!). I wouldn’t really put too much credence on a guess from this far back.
    Rosie, I hate to say this again, but you’ve got to take it down a notch. This is a personal blog, by one young, naive, and occasionally oblivious person. I’m bound to say dumb things and crazy things too and I appreciate people telling me when I don’t make sense. But please, back off a little.

  8. 8 Rosie
    December 5, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Whoa, whoa, slow down. I always thought that Richard, the psychic guy from Australia told Claire that it’s important that someone else should raise the baby. I dunno. I really do find it confusing.

    Oh. I see. Actually, Melkin told Claire that only SHE should raise Aaron and no one else. Claire also had a prophetic dream of Locke lecturing her for giving up Aaron in that same episode.


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